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A gadget has occurred in this error. Fiat vox veritatis ruat caelum.

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    1. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
      Replying to @Alrenous

      Mori Retweeted

      Maternal age greatly affects fertility and quality of offspring. Progressives pushed later marriage as empowering. You're right in that there is an effect from making the deal worse for most men. There are multiple causes. https://twitter.com/moritheil/status/1053720668116783104 …

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    2. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
      Replying to @moritheil

      The killer point is that later marriage immediately followed late-marriage propaganda. Again, an ill attributed to vague 'modernism' is in fact due to specific enemy action.

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    3. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
      Replying to @Alrenous

      Modernism is the result of enemy action, yes. - The universal white male suffrage movement of the early 1800s was snowballed by other progressive agendas and resulted in universal adult franchise. - The Communist Party agenda of the 1920s is almost entirely law today.

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    4. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
      Replying to @moritheil @Alrenous

      - Going back further, the destructive conceptualization of marriage as romantic love/soul mates rather than a traditional arrangement to exercise the duty and obligation to bear and raise children was the work of bards in the 1500s.

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    5. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
      Replying to @moritheil

      Making it an obligation is also wrong.

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    6. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
      Replying to @Alrenous

      ?

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    7. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
      Replying to @moritheil

      What I'm saying is that a corrupt political/ideological arrangement resulted in a reaction, which, being reactionary, was simply corrupt in the other direction.

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    8. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
      Replying to @Alrenous

      AFAIK it was considered a duty for thousands of years, as well as just "what you do." Prior to that the science of having babies was not well understood. Are you saying there was a point where people understood procreation but it was not a duty or obligation?

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    9. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
      Replying to @moritheil

      I'm saying they should have understood duties well enough to not consider it a duty.

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    10. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
      Replying to @Alrenous

      Now this gets interesting. What should be considered duties?

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      Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
      Replying to @moritheil

      Duties have to be voluntarily undertaken. Generally in return for some privilege. Imposing duties unilaterally is corrupt. What is theft but unilaterally imposing the duty that you give me your wallet?

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        2. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
          Replying to @Alrenous

          Aha, interesting phrasing. From a societal standpoint I posit that duties are those things necessary for continuation of society: - Upholding oaths (maintains trust) - Serving in armed forces, as a man - Producing food, as a farmer - Bearing children, as a woman

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        3. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
          Replying to @moritheil @Alrenous

          Now, only a dysfunctional system doesn't reward someone for doing something important. But to consider the reward part of the core of the duty is something I had not considered.

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        4. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
          Replying to @moritheil @Alrenous

          I think it's bad marketing to shove childbearing on those who don't want it (and religion provided a way out for many women.) But as I consider duty to be a question of necessity, I had a hard time understanding why one would say producing the next generation was not a duty.

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        5. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
          Replying to @moritheil

          It is neither good nor necessary to make reproduction obligatory. If one wishes, of their own voluntary will, to uphold their society, they may take on a duty to reproduce. Society should produce this will via negotiation. By offering members advantages over the Outside.

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        6. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
          Replying to @Alrenous @moritheil

          By contrast, Modernism offers being harassed if you happen to fat-finger a pronoun, utterly inescapable taxes, and apparently little else.

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        7. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
          Replying to @Alrenous

          There have been times when it certainly seemed absolutely necessary to increase the population by any means. We in our current technological bubble, with much labor done by machines, have little way of relating to those times when more men were desperately needed.

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        8. Mori‏ @moritheil Oct 30
          Replying to @moritheil @Alrenous

          That said, I heartily agree that ideally, all should be voluntary.

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        9. Alrenous‏ @Alrenous Oct 30
          Replying to @moritheil

          In cases where there's desperation for more children, a request combined with a promise of assistance should be plenty to inspire the loyal. And the loyal should exist due to the above considerations.

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