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Alfie Award-Winning Author/Commentator She/Her Nonfiction: http://alexandraerin.substack.com  Fiction: http://patreon.com/alexandraerin  Query: blueauthor@alexandraerin.com

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    Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

    I guess sayings about "n times = enemy action" are big in the military sci-fi circles, but Eric Flint's idea that the combination of an internet post and the reaction to that post require or even suggest coordination is this really weird blend of paranoia and naiveté.pic.twitter.com/BkKFfa5O9i

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"The kertuffle I’m talking about started with the publication on his Patreon site by an author named Jason Sanford of a hit piece on my publisher, Baen Books. I’m deliberately calling it a “hit piece” because everything about it stinks to me. I will explain why in the course of this post, but let me start with the fact that Sanford’s essay was followed in very quick succession by people piling on elsewhere including in File 770, a demand being placed on Baen Books’ service provider that they cancel the publisher’s online access, and loud demands that the upcoming 79th World Science Fiction Convention (Discon III) remove Baen’s publisher Toni Weisskopf as their Editor Guest of Honor.

Maybe all this is just coincidence, but I doubt it. And before anyone accuses me of suggesting there’s an elaborate conspiracy involved, I don’t think that for a minute. What I do think is likely is that a handful of jerks got together and thought starting something like this was a bright idea."
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      2. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        Though I suppose being naive about the dynamics of internet mobbery allows Flint to imagine he's doing anything with his rebuttal post than pointing a reactionary hate-mob at Jason Sanford.

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      3. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        This is not even getting into what's wrong with the substance of the post, which... well, I guess the common thread is naiveté about internet mob dynamics and reactionary politics.

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      4. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        Like, his sneering dismissal of the concerns Sanford documented with a handwave that amounts to "Oh, well, that all happened on the politics forum, which I and every sensible person ignores."... yeah, treating politics boards as containment zones is how the chans turned fascist.

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      5. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        He dismisses some of the threats of violence as being fanciful because he deems their ultimate aims (rendering cities uninhabitable) as being unrealistic, based on his own knowledge of military history. I see two problems here.

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      6. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        One is that, as January 6th shows us, the aims of violence do not have to be plausible or possible for that violence to be both real and deadly.

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      7. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        The other is that the card-carrying big bad of right-wing science fiction has for years pushed a vogue for LARPing as masters of "4th Generation Warfare", stoking a taste for asymmetrical warfare, domestic terrorism, guerrilla tactics, etc.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare …

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      8. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        I have my own opinion of the profile of a typical Baen Books author and how Eric Flint fits in. I think a big part of it is the belief in history as an orderly progression of cause and effect, predictable and therefore, ultimately, controllable.

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      9. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        Eric Flint is a logical man and he would probably not start writing an alternate history book where an outside element is introduced with the idea of reaching a particular outcome and then... history fails to diverge. Such a shaggy dog story would strike him as pointless.

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      10. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        And so he can't quite imagine anyone engaging in a campaign of violence and terror that strikes him as quixotic. If the desired outcome doesn't make sense, isn't an orderly and predictable effect of the cause, he assumes the cause wouldn't happen, either.

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      11. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        I just. He tells the story of how when he met Jim Baen, and Baen made a big deal out of how he can get along with a socialist like Flint, and he thinks that shows that Baen doesn't have a pronounced right-wing streak?

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      12. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        I think ultimately, what motivates him is a fit of pique. He's offended as Baen's biggest author that his personal politics aren't considered as important as the publisher's institutional politics, or more important than those of a mere Baen-hosted internet forum.

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      13. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        Taking every non-suppositional word of Flint's post as true, the message I get is: yes, Baen Books's internet forum is a right-wing hive, but how dare that matter to anyone when Baen's best author is a socialist?

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      14. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        I didn't really intend to go past the first tweet or two of this thread, but I am just gobsmacked by the arrogant naiveté of a man dismissing masturbatory right-wing posts about violence as mere "twaddle" because they're masturbatory, after January 6th.pic.twitter.com/aIPMfyvv0a

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"This is the 'great menace of Baen’s Bar' that Sanford yaps about. A handful of people—okay, two handfuls, tops—most of whom you have never heard of, who spout absolute twaddle. Yes, a fair amount of it is violent-sounding twaddle, but the violence is of a masturbatory nature."
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      15. Alexandra Erin‏ @AlexandraErin Feb 18

        Alexandra Erin Retweeted Andy H.

        Yeah. I mean, the bit near the beginning where Flint says that Sanford is playing a shell game is a lot of projection. Flint is doing the exact sleight-of-hand when he says he's not alleging a conspiracy, but the response was definitely planned.https://twitter.com/indeed_distract/status/1362417951606009860 …

        Alexandra Erin added,

        Andy H. @indeed_distract
        Replying to @AlexandraErin
        This theory fits the "It's disingenuous of Sanford to claim Kratman is representative of Baen books authors" bit of his piece. Sanford DIDN'T claim that, but it's true that this angry rando, rather than Flint, is shaping a lot of people's perceptions of the publisher right now.
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