The election was a wave. It was very good for Ds. But it ran into obstacles that foretell potential future D problems (FL, OH) just as the 2010 wave foundered in places that spoke to future R problems (CA, CO, NV)
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Replying to @NickRiccardi @ShaneGoldmacher
that's a good way of looking at it. could argue that the distressing thing for Dems even in areas I think they can consider big-pic successes -- Texas and Georgia -- is they still face a ceiling there that sits below a winning margin
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Replying to @Alex_Roarty @ShaneGoldmacher
Yes but those places are icing on the cake. They don’t need those states in their column yet if they win back PA MI WI.
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Replying to @NickRiccardi @ShaneGoldmacher
true, though man, it's hard for me to imagine Dems relying exclusively on winning WI-PA-MI for the presidency. PA, I could see that getting away from Trump. But the other two could be really damn close.
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Replying to @Alex_Roarty @ShaneGoldmacher
Yes of course. They can try tx az and ga as well. Just as Trump would be smart to make a run at MN and NH
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Replying to @NickRiccardi @Alex_Roarty
I agree in the House this was a wave. How many Clinton-House GOP districts are even left? And Senate map heavily tilted badly for GOP from the get-go. But my broader point is that D hopes that Trumpism would somehow be proved a one-time aberration for the country were squashed.
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did D's really think that? did D's really think racism is gone? It's a wyrm, never killed, just chopped to pieces for a while
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Those weren't the hopes of top party strategists, per se. They knew that was unlikely. But talk to rank and file Dems and activists and it was real. Btw, I don't recall Dems winning big governorships, or much of anything, in 2010 like Rs did in 2018.
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Replying to @ShaneGoldmacher @DemFromCT and
All seems like a fairly clear parallel, actually. Senate was a disappointment for GOP in 2010 with Reid & Murray & Bennet surviving (besides DE) and so Dems keeping majority for another 4 yrs. Ds won CT, MN, CO & IL squeakers for Gov that GOP aimed for, & CA was competitive win.
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Replying to @Taniel @ShaneGoldmacher and
It seems we're relying on OH & IA's (apparently-former) status as swing states to make them as big symbols of a good GOP night; but for that matter CO had just started getting blueish by 2010, MN and IL are huge, and CA was a gain of a huge trifecta. FL does loom large this time.
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to that point: if we're talkingabout some sort of median voter of the american electorate, the Democrats won that guy or gal (and then some). the thing we're simultaneously finding out is that there really aren't that many of those median voters in Iowa or Ohio anymore (or fl?)
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Replying to @Alex_Roarty @Taniel and
Also that the median voter doesnt get you 51 senate seats, or even to 271 in presidentials. That’s the D problem this election exposed.
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Replying to @NickRiccardi @Alex_Roarty and
Ok wheels up let’s continue this tomorrow until Maricopa drops more ballots at 7 pm eastern
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