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The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA
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    1. Catherine‏ @whitequark Jul 13

      the illusion that mathematics is some sort of universal ground truth is dispelled once you understand what it means to prove something: it is not to construct a proof, but to convince other mathematicians that your proof makes sense. an inherently social activity

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    2. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Jul 13
      Replying to @whitequark

      Mathematics is mechanically objective but fundamentally epistemological and hence embedded in subjective systems. I guess the difference is that if math is valid you can use it to build stuff and that stuff embodies the principles of the math. infinite but bounded valid maths

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    3. Justin Lê‏ @mstk Jul 13
      Replying to @Alephwyr @whitequark

      so you're saying that any math that can't be used to build stuff is invalid?

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    4. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Jul 13
      Replying to @mstk @whitequark

      I think it becomes more like any other language in that case: it conveys information but doesn't necessarily correspond to anything in the world or have ontological significance for the world we actually live in. Modal logic is sort of like this: it's a sieve for intuitions.

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    5. Justin Lê‏ @mstk Jul 13
      Replying to @Alephwyr @whitequark

      then I guess I'm not exactly sure what your original point was? All math is valid, just some math is useful for building things, but the math that is useful for building things is not social?

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      The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Jul 14
      Replying to @mstk @whitequark

      Maybe all math is valid but only some math is sound

      9:17 AM - 14 Jul 2021
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        2. Justin Lê‏ @mstk Jul 14
          Replying to @Alephwyr @whitequark

          With respect to the original tweet, is "sound" what you are defining as "the part of math that is not a social activity"?

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        3. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Jul 14
          Replying to @mstk @whitequark

          I think so, albeit indirectly. Math practiced without any interaction with anything at all would be private language I think

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