Other people's liberty must be held in abeyance at times to prevent bad actors from destroying their own, often with tack-on race to the bottom effects. The quintessential example is that it should be illegal to sell yourself into slavery. But there is a finer gradient to it.
I guess I would say the utility of liberty depends on everyone staying within a limited range of game constraints. A lot of people conceive of this as racialized social norms but that's wrong. It's bigger than that. There are conditions under which liberty is self defeating.
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But it's like Popper's paradoxes of totalitarianism emerging from democracy. Inam just trying to figure out how to robustly guard against edge cases in liberty without political cyclicalism in terms of revolutions and corruptions.
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