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If economics have become a form of warfare by other means in a post nuclear world then the fact that there are clear winners and losers is not a radically different or new hardship. The people of Hungary just lost, and they should get over it. I will gladly watch, however.

Yes if EU wants to dictate terms to Hungary, they probably can and will, by wielding whatever power they have. But at some point these regimes will have to get their comeuppance not for wielding power but making bad choices..pushing degenerate policy upon their subjects

Wishful thinking. You're welcome to it.

I don't mean in our lifetime even... or for example by another empire like China. All civilizations fall, and usually after decadence. This is what I mean... you disagree?

Yes. Or rather, your conception of decadence is too broad, as is also the case with most historians who reason in that style. Dysgenics and relaxation of true moral standards is never good, but not all extant moral standards are equal or even valid.

If China succeeds it will be on the strength of Han supremacy, not their philosophy. Their leaders are murdering their philosophy as leaders everywhere are doing.

I think they just don't have to be as ghey as the West, and they are succeeding there easily.

I think it is not nearly as complicated as you're making it... it's very simple really https://twitter.com/Xongkuro/status/1413123050502033410 …