There are subjective and objective domains and they are seperate.
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Replying to @Alephwyr
which is which, tho are you saying that fallibility isn't a fundamental, objective problem, or different willing isn't a fundamental, objective problem
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Replying to @averykimball
"An ye harm none, do what thou wilt" seems fine to me. But biology is fundamentally intermeshed with harm. You can't advocate biology and not be fascist. It doesn't matter that it's the status quo
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Replying to @Alephwyr
we are literally in a crisis in defining "harm" just because it's obvious to *you* what harm is, doesn't mean anything- if you think you're infallible, you're mistaken
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Replying to @averykimball
Everyone else's definition of harm seems to result in harming me. So I sort of don't have to care.
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Replying to @Alephwyr
yeah, you can choose to not care about things this doesn't place you in a great position to make totalizing decisions about everyone's meaning, tho
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Replying to @averykimball
My position is exactly isomorphic to that of others and only appears to be otherwise because you refuse to admit that current existence is constrained by malign frameworks.
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Replying to @Alephwyr
i'm not idealist, so i don't ascribe malignancy to frameworks frameworks are the best we can do, because we haven't come up with better ones yet they don't actually have intentionality
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Replying to @averykimball
Hmm. I am not sure how to square the metaphysics, but the material "base" or whatever just seems inherently malign to me under most conditions
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Replying to @Alephwyr
i agree that the material world is the source of *problems* (states of nature that don't mesh with how we think they should be) but intrinsic to meaning-making (i contend), is *overcoming* problems, creatively and assigning malignancy to the genesis of our meaning-making...
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It's fundamentally pessimistic. Peter J Carroll's Chaos Magick Theory is essentially gnosticism without a higher God: a radical pessimism. But that's correct. The price of moral existence and improvement is eternal warfare against the demiurge.
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Replying to @Alephwyr
huh, interesting, chaos figures centrally to a lot of my thinking- though i'm purely naturalistic wonder if, like romanticism, CMT's idealism might be a place to trawl for ideas about infinity and creation
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