if you think the string of inferences fails at some point, you should be able to draw it out - and even if you do, it only suggests a new path whose end is the same "topmost layer" about which you are even now claiming to have made inferences about
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Replying to @ne0agent1c
It's all just layer upon layer of adversarial examples built into the human brain. The fact that people come up with similar nonsense repeatedly doesn't make it not nonsense, it just means they have similar brain architectures.
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Replying to @ne0agent1c
That's what they all say, and yet none of them can argue directly to any point
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the points you're making don't prove what you seem to think they prove, and perhaps if you merely acquainted yourself with the perspectives of others it would be easier for you to recognize that your idea of adversarial (falsifying) examples don't apply to their system
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Replying to @ne0agent1c
I've read a lot of religious texts and listened to a moderate amount of people talking about them, I just don't think I know anything about theology because there's nothing there to know. If you want to present a "perspective" please do so concretely.
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Replying to @Alephwyr @ne0agent1c
and that's not what I mean by adversarial example. I mean brain hacks. Just like AI recognizes upside down trashcans as gibbons or whatever, humans see God everywhere.
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the distinction between legitimate knowledge and brain hackery is a theological one. what exactly is the difference between hearing words and being hit on the head with a hammer? Don't they both simply modify the configuration of the central nervous system?
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"the distinction between legitimate knowledge and brain hackery is a theological one." why?
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because it poses the question of what text is to be accepted as authoritative. of course one text is direct experience and one text is brain injury but you still have to put some hermeneutic gloss on them to give them sense. (some people regard Philip K Dick as a spiritual guru)
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People who have been lying about my nature since before I was born and will continue lying about it after I'm dead have no authority; whatever wisdom they have is forfeit, to be used or cast aside by me as I will.
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but what if it isn't people from before you were born? what if it is your own lying eyes, or God shooting a pink laser right into your brain? or maybe you just took the wrong drug? the epistemological problem is the same.
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If my gender were "wrong" it would entail nihilism to a degree that a mere religion being wrong could never entail.
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