Anti violence as a recognition that violence is a sort of fractally suboptimal branching decision subdomain with local disutility all the way up and down is a strong argument that violence is to be avoided only if you believe this idealized game is the one being played. It's not.
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Knowledge of what an ideal game would look like is not evidence one inhabits that game.
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It's actually worse than this. The moralists think they are in a game where violence ISN'T EVEN POSSIBLE until irrational actors introduce it by confusedly playing as if their counterfactual game conditions were true. Violence is not even just suboptimal but total error to them.
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Think about nature honestly and ask yourself what kind of animal doesn't have a concept of violence as part of its world and perhaps you will be as offended by these types as I am.
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