No, I want to maximize welfare. And to do that we need to get away from people who believe in things like the justice of infinite torture for sinners and other irrational ideas. The billionaires will have to be sublimated or otherwise dealt with, but their wealth builds distance
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Your proximity to bible humpers is best solved for people suffering from them by mutual aid and eventually killing them all. Which is a lot more tangible than hoping to for the 0.0001 chance that mars will both have you and be free of such puritans
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Who's to say Mars isn't full of technofascists
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Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro
As long as they don't practice infinite torture and implement systemic safeguards against infinite torture they can be technofascists. I'm single issue.
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So like, not eternal torture is fine, we should just be fine with that because it isn't the worst? Mate you said you were for maximizing welfare, not ruling out the most extreme version of suffering, you're contradicting yourself
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Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro
Well I mean, I think preserving processes of change is important. If we have those plus non torture we will get to the destination eventually, wherever it lies
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I think theoretically this has to be a tandem project. Non-capitalist production of technology is required to prevent super-torture, and a social production of technology will help safeguard against it
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Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro
That's not what an actual solution sounds like. An actual solution sounds like xyz system of encryption, pqr automation of force per ABC game theoretic equilibrium, mode z of zero knowledge proof based handshake. It doesn't sound like calling mice in council
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Replying to @Alephwyr @RevFoxinistSalt
I suspect that the Landauer Limit + impossible-to-abstract-over inherent complexity of human neurons will make it so expensive to keep people in hell that this will not become a problem. But I COULD be wrong about that, which is something to worry about
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If almost every atom matters, you end up needing a computer much larger and much more energy-hungry than a human brain to simulate one.
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I don't think it will
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