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The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA
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Dragon of Chaos. Restore the dragonsphere: (Transhumanist dragonkin simulationist archipelago/patchwork) http://patreon.com/alephwyr , https://alephwyr.substack.com/ 

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    1. Salt 🦊 🔴 🏴‏ @RevFoxinistSalt Mar 25
      Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @Alephwyr @NotGyro

      You're talking about a praxis for the reduction of suffering, specific kinds in this case. You ought to put more into that then hoping that Daddy Elon will figure it out

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    2. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Mar 25
      Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro

      That's not what I said. I just think distance is a good first step for dealing with volatile situations, and Mars listing billionaires are the people enabling that right now. Medium or long term I have no special faith in them

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    3. Salt 🦊 🔴 🏴‏ @RevFoxinistSalt Mar 25
      Replying to @Alephwyr @NotGyro

      What does having billionaires distancing themselves from earth help deal with? This would be a more comfortable existence for them, not anyone else. Do you only care if like, 1 or more human beings has a good existence?

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    4. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Mar 25
      Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro

      No, I want to maximize welfare. And to do that we need to get away from people who believe in things like the justice of infinite torture for sinners and other irrational ideas. The billionaires will have to be sublimated or otherwise dealt with, but their wealth builds distance

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    5. Salt 🦊 🔴 🏴‏ @RevFoxinistSalt Mar 25
      Replying to @Alephwyr @NotGyro

      Your proximity to bible humpers is best solved for people suffering from them by mutual aid and eventually killing them all. Which is a lot more tangible than hoping to for the 0.0001 chance that mars will both have you and be free of such puritans

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    6. Salt 🦊 🔴 🏴‏ @RevFoxinistSalt Mar 25
      Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @Alephwyr @NotGyro

      Who's to say Mars isn't full of technofascists

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    7. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Mar 25
      Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro

      As long as they don't practice infinite torture and implement systemic safeguards against infinite torture they can be technofascists. I'm single issue.

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    8. Salt 🦊 🔴 🏴‏ @RevFoxinistSalt Mar 25
      Replying to @Alephwyr @NotGyro

      So like, not eternal torture is fine, we should just be fine with that because it isn't the worst? Mate you said you were for maximizing welfare, not ruling out the most extreme version of suffering, you're contradicting yourself

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    9. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Mar 25
      Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro

      Well I mean, I think preserving processes of change is important. If we have those plus non torture we will get to the destination eventually, wherever it lies

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    10. Salt 🦊 🔴 🏴‏ @RevFoxinistSalt Mar 25
      Replying to @Alephwyr @NotGyro

      I think theoretically this has to be a tandem project. Non-capitalist production of technology is required to prevent super-torture, and a social production of technology will help safeguard against it

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      The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr Mar 25
      Replying to @RevFoxinistSalt @NotGyro

      That's not what an actual solution sounds like. An actual solution sounds like xyz system of encryption, pqr automation of force per ABC game theoretic equilibrium, mode z of zero knowledge proof based handshake. It doesn't sound like calling mice in council

      12:22 AM - 25 Mar 2021
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        1. Salt 🦊 🔴 🏴‏ @RevFoxinistSalt Mar 25
          Replying to @Alephwyr @NotGyro

          If there isn't a socially guided techno-production then any code safeguards you put in place will literally just be circumvented. The solution here has to be a social one because it's atop social material that these things come about, that's unavoidable

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        2. Gyro‏ @NotGyro Mar 25
          Replying to @Alephwyr @RevFoxinistSalt

          I suspect that the Landauer Limit + impossible-to-abstract-over inherent complexity of human neurons will make it so expensive to keep people in hell that this will not become a problem. But I COULD be wrong about that, which is something to worry about

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        3. Gyro‏ @NotGyro Mar 25
          Replying to @NotGyro @Alephwyr @RevFoxinistSalt

          If almost every atom matters, you end up needing a computer much larger and much more energy-hungry than a human brain to simulate one.

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        1. Gyro‏ @NotGyro Mar 25
          Replying to @Alephwyr @RevFoxinistSalt

          Encrypted consciousness is such an interesting idea. Would it be a transparent layer you think atop? Or, would it involve thinking differently, would it *feel* different?

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