I don't know whether or not the United States government is at any particularly greater risk of mass murder than other governments, but your analysis via evasion isn't really helping to clarify anything.
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Replying to @Alephwyr @Takesfordays
I think hitler wasn't rounding up people risking death to immigrate to germany and you are being pedantic lol , it seems like you only want framing that is suggestive in one direction and that's not really my problem
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Replying to @turrible_tao @Takesfordays
I mean, if you think the point of the argument is to clarify whether Hitler's motives match US government motives, and not that the point of the argument is whether or not the possibility of mass murder of anyone is unacceptably high, I guess I can understand your "framing".
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Replying to @Alephwyr @Takesfordays
I think the point of the argument is calling them concentration camps is fucking ridiculous and having immigration laws in line with the whole entire planet is not a slippery slope
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Replying to @turrible_tao @Takesfordays
Not by itself. The government of the United States has killed an abnormally large number of people historically though. Maybe that is worth considering in conjunction with other facts.
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"the United States has killed an abnormally large number of people historically" is there some handy reference source that compares Roman Empire, Mongol Empire, Spanish Empire, British Empire, Soviets, Chinese Communists, Americans for 'total number of people killed'? curious
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All empires have killed an abnormally large number of people historically. You're comparing an outlier to other outliers.
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"All empires have killed an abnormally large number" oh sorry i thought you were trying to make a point about the US 'being different'
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Than other countries, yes. Unless you think all countries are empires. My point could probably be summarized as "empires are inherently dangerous, and like anything dangerous should be managed with discipline or else not at all"
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probably a fair generic point, but not exactly helpful or clarifying about whether the human-rights track record of the US is, on the whole, better or worse than peers. In general, its way better than most contemporary nations, empire or not.
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True. And I would like to keep it that way.
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