Every south american country has immigration laws, europe has immigration laws, the idea every gov on planet earth is teetering on edge of slippery slope for having immigration laws is ridiculous
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Replying to @turrible_tao @Takesfordays
I don't know whether or not the United States government is at any particularly greater risk of mass murder than other governments, but your analysis via evasion isn't really helping to clarify anything.
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Replying to @Alephwyr @Takesfordays
I think hitler wasn't rounding up people risking death to immigrate to germany and you are being pedantic lol , it seems like you only want framing that is suggestive in one direction and that's not really my problem
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Replying to @turrible_tao @Takesfordays
I mean, if you think the point of the argument is to clarify whether Hitler's motives match US government motives, and not that the point of the argument is whether or not the possibility of mass murder of anyone is unacceptably high, I guess I can understand your "framing".
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Replying to @Alephwyr @Takesfordays
I think the point of the argument is calling them concentration camps is fucking ridiculous and having immigration laws in line with the whole entire planet is not a slippery slope
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Replying to @turrible_tao @Takesfordays
Not by itself. The government of the United States has killed an abnormally large number of people historically though. Maybe that is worth considering in conjunction with other facts.
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"the United States has killed an abnormally large number of people historically" is there some handy reference source that compares Roman Empire, Mongol Empire, Spanish Empire, British Empire, Soviets, Chinese Communists, Americans for 'total number of people killed'? curious
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All empires have killed an abnormally large number of people historically. You're comparing an outlier to other outliers.
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"All empires have killed an abnormally large number" oh sorry i thought you were trying to make a point about the US 'being different'
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Replying to @Bugs_Meany @Alephwyr and
At any rate, none of America’s crimes warrant an increased suspicion that it will massacre media darlings in camps inside its border in the current year. There’s no good logic or evidence for that.
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I honestly don't think anyone knows enough to make authoritative claims about human behavior in this or for that matter just about any context. I'd like to think this is true, but there are as many reasons it could be false as reasons it could be true.
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