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Dragon of Chaos. Restore the dragonsphere: (Transhumanist dragonkin simulationist archipelago/patchwork) http://patreon.com/alephwyr , https://alephwyr.substack.com/ 

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    1. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      I don't really understand how disqualification based on abuse leads to more abuse as opposed to transitioning? There should be better pipelines to therapy/cps/what have you ideally I'd what I'm saying, but I don't see how transitioning would... stop abuse?

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    2. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      Transitioning wouldn't stop abuse. Look, the incentive structure is this: 1. If my child says they were abused, they can't do thing I don't want them to 2. I can abuse my child to prevent them from doing thing I don't want them to 3. I will abuse my child

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    3. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      Hmmm. I sort of see what you're saying, but in cases such as this shouldn't the first priority be to get some sort of intervention/cps/therapy involved first anyway? And again, I don't think the original argument was for abuse to *disqualify* people from treatment.

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    4. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      It may be. And the original argument entails disqualification for abuse, at a higher than current rate (which is -allegedly- 0, so any positive rate would be higher), so it doesn't really matter that it was "about" things besides just disqualification.

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    5. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      I'm just going off the text in the picture, but it seems to me like it's arguing that teens who have been abused may not be in a good place to make such decisions? I don't think it's a binary between treatment/no treatment, but adding more counselling before reevaluation?

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    6. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      It's a subtle obfuscation. It doesn't matter if they're not in a good place to make such decisions because when they go before a doctor it becomes the doctor's decision. That's the nature of gatekeeping. Also the only thing that matters is whether the decision is correct or not

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    7. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      If the affirmation route is growing more common, then it is increasingly largely up to the patient and less the doctor, is it not?

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    8. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      If this is the case then it is probably because of broken incentive structures in the system itself rather than because doctors just "feel obligated" or something. Either way the answer should be to change incentive structures rather than force the error in one exact direction.

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    9. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      Fair enough, I think changing incentive structures would be a good thing. I agree we shouldn't force an error, although I'm not sure having more therapy available would do so. How do you feel about bill C6 in Canada?

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    10. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      "receiving a financial or other material benefit from the provision of conversion therapy; and advertising an offer to provide conversion therapy." Are oversteps because they apply to consenting adults, otherwise it seems fine. Conversion therapy has no empirical support.

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      The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @B612Tipsy and

      Also Section 2(a) cripples the bill which is objectionable. A parent's religion shouldn't curtail a child's rights.

      11:53 AM - 20 Dec 2020
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