The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA

Okay then isn't the point of transition to make trans people's lives better? Does the existence of detrans people make transition fall under the category of "a lot of things" that don't live up to their point then? No? Then how about we try to improve accuracy for everyone?

I don't think you understand my arguments

Transition does not entirely live up to its point for everyone. You can say that the availability of transition increases the number of detransitions in the same way you can say the disqualifying nature of abuse tends to increase abuse.

I don't really understand how disqualification based on abuse leads to more abuse as opposed to transitioning? There should be better pipelines to therapy/cps/what have you ideally I'd what I'm saying, but I don't see how transitioning would... stop abuse?

Transitioning wouldn't stop abuse. Look, the incentive structure is this: 1. If my child says they were abused, they can't do thing I don't want them to 2. I can abuse my child to prevent them from doing thing I don't want them to 3. I will abuse my child

Hmmm. I sort of see what you're saying, but in cases such as this shouldn't the first priority be to get some sort of intervention/cps/therapy involved first anyway? And again, I don't think the original argument was for abuse to *disqualify* people from treatment.

It may be. And the original argument entails disqualification for abuse, at a higher than current rate (which is -allegedly- 0, so any positive rate would be higher), so it doesn't really matter that it was "about" things besides just disqualification.

I'm just going off the text in the picture, but it seems to me like it's arguing that teens who have been abused may not be in a good place to make such decisions? I don't think it's a binary between treatment/no treatment, but adding more counselling before reevaluation?