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What?? If we know there's trauma, we know they should receive therapy for it. Are you saying we should affirm gender dysphoria in kids with trauma without questioning if it even played a part in them feeling that way??

I'm saying exactly what I typed, which is that if trauma always disqualifies then parents with gender variant children will more often choose to traumatize them to camouflage the legitimacy of their gender and prevent them from transitioning.

But no one's saying that trauma always disqualifies? You're strawmanning the argument. Also the point is that trauma isn't equal to being gender dysphoric. There should be rigorous assessment as to which path is the most appropriate. No one's saying DISREGARD abuse or dysphoria.

The point holds true if trauma disqualifies at a higher frequency. And I didn't say that trauma was equal to being gender dysphoric. Your arguments are pointless.

No, your point holds true only if we were disqualifying by mistake. Even if disqualification were occurring at higher frequencies, if those were *accurate* decisions that then helped people get proper treatment/therapy for their trauma, that would be a good thing.

Oh. So if something impossible is true then I'm wrong. I suppose that's valid.

Are you saying we shouldn't evaluate whether trauma had anything to do with dysphoria?

You'd have to show me that evaluations lead to better outcomes, and by a significant margin.