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Dragon of Chaos. Restore the dragonsphere: (Transhumanist dragonkin simulationist archipelago/patchwork) http://patreon.com/alephwyr , https://alephwyr.substack.com/ 

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    1. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      One tends to imply the other

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    2. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      Surely there's an important difference there?

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    3. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      To what? It will tend to increase instances of child abuse. The exact nature of the mechanism seems unimportant.

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    4. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      What?? If we know there's trauma, we know they should receive therapy for it. Are you saying we should affirm gender dysphoria in kids with trauma without questioning if it even played a part in them feeling that way??

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    5. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      I'm saying exactly what I typed, which is that if trauma always disqualifies then parents with gender variant children will more often choose to traumatize them to camouflage the legitimacy of their gender and prevent them from transitioning.

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    6. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 18 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      But no one's saying that trauma always disqualifies? You're strawmanning the argument. Also the point is that trauma isn't equal to being gender dysphoric. There should be rigorous assessment as to which path is the most appropriate. No one's saying DISREGARD abuse or dysphoria.

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    7. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 19 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      The point holds true if trauma disqualifies at a higher frequency. And I didn't say that trauma was equal to being gender dysphoric. Your arguments are pointless.

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    8. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      No, your point holds true only if we were disqualifying by mistake. Even if disqualification were occurring at higher frequencies, if those were *accurate* decisions that then helped people get proper treatment/therapy for their trauma, that would be a good thing.

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    9. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      Oh. So if something impossible is true then I'm wrong. I suppose that's valid.

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    10. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

      Impossible? We already know detrans/desist individuals who say they wish there had been a better pipeline to therapy had existed 🙄 obviously assessments exist but they're not even in application. Are you actually arguing for fewer assessments? Affirmation only?

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      The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
      Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

      No, I am saying "It's ok, we'll just have 100% accuracy", which was your counterargument, is entirely insane.

      10:42 AM - 20 Dec 2020
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        2. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

          Poor wording on my part, fair enough. But you were saying that if trauma disqualifies at a higher frequency it's invalid as an assessment point, which makes no sense if we don't have more data on how often trauma affects dysphoria?

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        3. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

          I didn't say it was invalid, I said it would cause more abuse.

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        2. Masako 🐣‏ @B612Tipsy 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @Alephwyr @clairlemon @Quillette

          Also it makes no sense to me that you're saying such assessments will enable parents to keep traumatizing their children, when the entire point is to try to get everyone the appropriate treatment they need, whether for dysphoria or for actual trauma.

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        3. The Legendary Dragon Alephwyr, named Alephwyr, BA‏ @Alephwyr 20 Dec 2020
          Replying to @B612Tipsy @clairlemon @Quillette

          A lot of things have points that they don't live up to.

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