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This is the number one thing I can't stand about nerds of my inclination, almost everyone is too nuanced, respectful, and careful. Discourse interventions end up sounding like "I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry..." which is to say they sound like nothing, they go unheard.
Nerds unironically took the historically very successful motte and bailey strategy, extended it to rhetoric, and decided the main purpose of this extension should be to exclude the strategy from rhetoric as a fallacy.
