The devil always breaks his tools. That doesn't mean you celebrate devils.
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i appreciate this in the abstract, but still struggle with the idea that civilization should/needs to fall to create this
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There are two different major competing definitions of civilization: 1. The most impressive products of human interaction, regardless of what type of interaction was entailed (violence, coercion etc) 2. The domain of human interaction which doesn't include violence, coercion etc
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