"To understand young drug addicts, they must be likened to participants in ancient initiatory rites that have fallen into disuse in our modern society. This product of the isolation of young people today 'covers up a thirst for initiation that Western culture and society can no
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longer quench, because rites of passage have disappeared from our civilizations.' The ones that had to do with sexuality, for example, have been swept away by the sexual revolution. 'Young people no longer encounter any difficulty in being initiated into sex, no obstruction, no
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taboo that might restore to the discovery of sexuality its value as a rite of passage. Where sex is concerned, there is no longer any possibility for transgression.'" - Jean-Michel Oughourlian
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Replying to @Ahimsa_Satya_ @MimeticValue and
Sexuality can be a love affair or a kind of predation affair with many interesting sometimes violent substitution mechanisms. Sexual substitutions matter to me more than "transgression" : they explain better many sexual behaviors.
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Replying to @GirardForum @MimeticValue and
Sexuality is much more, of course. This is more in reference to how addiction emerges from a failure to properly mature through a rite of passage. Taboo creates the spice, it’s lack destroys the chance to experience that transcendence. This is not purely sexual.
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In a recent podcast, Russell Brand discusses how drugs operate as a form of transcendent stasis that allows one to experience, temporarily, the feelings of proper growth while at the same time riding one over suicidal nihilism at the failure to pass the rite of passage.
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In the case of sexuality, “sex addiction” might be caused by a lack of proper familial prohibitions on sex thus destroying the transcendence of taboo by violation or rite of passage leading to obsessively repeated attempts to acquire the transcendence present in mature others.
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Replying to @Ahimsa_Satya_ @MimeticValue and
It's an hypothesis about "sex addiction" connected to transcendance. I am more materialistic and consider sex addiction as caused by excessive repetition of taking pleasure hormones acting like drugs (like in sport addiction).
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Replying to @GirardForum @MimeticValue and
I’m not sure I see the difference. The long term physical and psychological pleasures of proper sexual development can’t compare to the pleasure of masturbation. Perhaps certain individuals develop faulty receptors or something but one would ask why they got that way.
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Addiction itself seems to be an attempt to establish a stasis between acceptance that one cannot obtain his object and obtaining it. One cannot see how to obtain his object but does not want to surrender to nihilistic collapse and suicide so he attempts a substitution.
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Replying to @Ahimsa_Satya_ @MimeticValue and
I must leave this interesting conversation. I will have to re-read some messages. I come back later or tomorrow.
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