Christian baptism seems to be an inverse stoning. Your friends (enemies) gather around you and give praise (insults). You are submersed in water (killed) as a means of entrance (expulsion) from the community. There is of course deeper reasoning but it seems striking.
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Replying to @Ahimsa_Satya_
This makes some sense for credobaptists but most Christians are paedobaptists.
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Replying to @Jed_Trott
Good point. Interesting anthropologically though and certainly applies to first generation believers. I was raised credobaptist as Schwarzenau known as the Old German Baptist in the US, but my mother was Catholic.
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Replying to @Ahimsa_Satya_
You can argue that paedobaptism is a stronger method of group identification than credo in the sense that I care more about whether my kids belong to the community of God than whether I do. I was raised (and still am) a Presbyterian in a conservative denomination.
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Replying to @Jed_Trott
I really don’t think one is stronger than the other and I don’t really agree with re-baptism in either case.
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Replying to @Ahimsa_Satya_
I agree with your disagreement. As a rule, we don't allow rebaptism unless the original baptism was basically in a cult because, as with circumcision, its not about your commitment to God. It's about your parents and community committing you to God.
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Replying to @Jed_Trott
I’m not sure about that, I don’t see how it is the parents or communities choice but if it is a child I could see how that might make sense... I see it as a sign of covenant not of the flesh. Circumcision was of the flesh, baptism is of the spirit...
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And by this it would have similar to do with putting off the old man (flesh) and putting on the new (Jesus). A sort of Kenosis.
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Replying to @Ahimsa_Satya_
Kenosis and reverse kenosis. As Christ was emptied of himself so that he might intercede for us we are emptied of ourselves so that we can be filled. Beautiful symmetry.
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