Loved the parts of @BarackObama speech where he talked about coming together as a country, but why then blatantly lie to the American people about a basic economic fact that the gender pay gap DOES NOT EXIST. PERIOD.
I’m not sure if I trust “common knowledge” especially with it being such a political point of contention. Would rather refer to economic research.
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It's political but in France everyone agrees. Debates are here about solutions not about the diagnosis. Many women also have bad jobs (e.g. cleaning ones, rooms or old or ill people), with bad time schedules (e.g. in restaurants) and unwanted par-time jobs.
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You are taking the side of the crowd. You have no evidence or scientific research to support your diagnosis.
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Here, for example, source of the datas : INSEE - national institute of statistics (a reliable reference in France)https://www.inegalites.fr/Les-inegalites-de-salaires-entre-les-femmes-et-les-hommes-etat-des-lieux …
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The very first line of that article contains the error. The AVERAGE net monthly salary of men in full-time equivalent is 22.8% higher than women. Here is our problem. There is no understanding of multivariate analysis or non-Gaussian distributions.
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Implying that a non-Gaussian solution is something that is bad is a result of a desire for platonic idealism or symmetry which does not exist in nature. You wish to conform nature to your symmetrical ideas of an ordered world.
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You must understand non-guassian distributions, particularly with respect to the fat tails. Additionally, a difference doesn’t tell us anything at all, we must know WHY and that is a multivariate analysis based that is reduced when taking into account what I’ve said above.
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Additionally we must find multivariate reasons for the difference that are significant and then we must examine the second and third order effects of intervening in the natural self-selection that produces asymmetries.
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Perhaps you should consider the expendability of men. How might men being expendable result in them taking up the extreme ends of sociological distributions in income, intelligence, education, etc.
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Another problem is that the time spent on household chores is also work and women take it on very largely. Women who work have a sort of double job. The idea is spreading here that men should participate more in order to rectify this unbalanced distribution.
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Well, then does that mean women must work more to make up for the corresponding loss of income? What of women who prefer to be a housewife? Will you FORCE them to get a job or change their behavior? It seems like you’re more worried about telling people what to do than helping.
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People want to help, but if their diagnosis of the problem is wrong, they aren’t helping at all!
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In France, even a right-wing newspaper (Le Figaro) and a supposedly centrist government, actually right-wing, consider this a reality and a problem, not as a false/true debate :http://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/2018/03/07/20002-20180307ARTFIG00331-reduire-les-ecarts-salariaux-hommes-femmes-une-priorite-de-l-executif.php …
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No, they don’t understand statistics or economics and neither do you, clearly.
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INSEE is THE statistics reference in France. It's their job, not mine. We have a french expression to name the problem : "glass ceiling". There is a kind of "glass ceiling" for women in corporations, that's how we often speak about it.
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That paper you linked was just wrong man, you’re arguing about authority right now when I’m arguing the facts and the science. Unless you understand this stuff, we can’t have a discussion. Because you don’t understand how that INSEE article is just meaningless statistic until..
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... a multivariate analysis is done on why their are differences in the first place instead of just assuming it must be bad and moving on to finding ways to rectify the situation and produce symmetry in your platonic ideal.
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