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Aella
@Aella_Girl
I have a continuous nagging suspicion that the "men as oppressors throughout history" narrative is only taking hold because our society has grown to value masculine traits more than feminine, and thus see history through a male-advantaged lens. Not sure though.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
as in; men generally have had the advantage of agency and disadvantage of disposability, while women generally had the advantage of safety and disadvantage of no autonomy. I wonder how our narratives would change if our culture provided high autonomy but no safety.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
Like, maybe culture granted two 'gifts' - safety to women, and agency to men. Now we're in a culture where safety is granted to everyone, and so the obvious discrepancy is in agency. We forgot what it was like to be unsafe, and so we judge the two gifts as inequal.
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@windlashed
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@Aella_Girl
Where the "patriarchy" exists, modern feminist theory basically stops there. All things belong on a spectrum, but there are two very divided classes of men with women sandwiched between. Ruling men control everyone, value women as a commodity, and tread on other men.
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@TimothyChutes
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@Aella_Girl
Everyone is definitely more safe, but men still generally seen as disposable. Expected to put yourself in the middle of violent confrontations to end them, work unending hours sacrificing family life, having to register to be drafted for access to political rights, etc.
FreeNClarified
@FreeNClarified
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@Aella_Girl
thats an interesting take. yes, men and women are different with different abilities but thats ok. can their contributions to society overlap and their traits be considered gender-neutral? yes. we need to accept that different people are different.