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I have a continuous nagging suspicion that the "men as oppressors throughout history" narrative is only taking hold because our society has grown to value masculine traits more than feminine, and thus see history through a male-advantaged lens. Not sure though.

Aella

@Aella_Girl

Jan 22, 2018

as in; men generally have had the advantage of agency and disadvantage of disposability, while women generally had the advantage of safety and disadvantage of no autonomy. I wonder how our narratives would change if our culture provided high autonomy but no safety.

Aella

@Aella_Girl

Like, maybe culture granted two 'gifts' - safety to women, and agency to men. Now we're in a culture where safety is granted to everyone, and so the obvious discrepancy is in agency. We forgot what it was like to be unsafe, and so we judge the two gifts as inequal.

6:39 AM · Jan 22, 2018

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And to be clear, I'm not totally sure yet. I haven't tried putting this idea on and fighting other ideas in it yet so I'm not sure how battle-worthy it is.

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Seeing as how the metoo movement rails against the unsafe nature of sexual conduct (if we are boiling things down) ........

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I'd argue that the metoo movement is really about agency, not safety. Actually unsafe consent violations are a minority of what the metoo rallies against. A lot of the stuff would be 100% fine if you were "just chill with it," which makes me think it's really about agency.

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@drethelin

Jan 22, 2018

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@Aella_Girl

Also there's still a pretty big discrepancy in safety, men are way more likely to die violently or be homeless and uncared for

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Men still make up the majority in military combat personnel, law enforcement and other dangerous work. Women remain less likely to risk their safety.

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It seems to me that agency for women is not what the current wave of feminists are promoting, maybe because agency involves personal responsibility. P.S. safety is not granted to men!