A man captured and hid a child in a container with limited oxygen. Is it permissible to torture him into revealing where he hid the child?
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The fundamental problem is how can you tell if he is telling you the truth? (And in the real world, how can you be *sure* you
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if I knew for a fact he had the kid somewhere, absolutely. If I'm just torturing him to get info, without evidence, then no.




