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Re whether trauma’s real, I think social attitudes can have some impact, but actually can also attest to experiencing trauma as a young kid and having lots of typical psychological responses (e.g. disassociation) years before anyone reacted to it with shock or sadness.
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That was an interesting discussion although DP didn't seem too prepared. The funniest part was at the beginning: DP: "Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Ay-ell-a, who needs no introduction..." AG: "It's Ay-la..."😂
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