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I thought nothing could make me lose faith in EA. Aella, again, showed me just how badly my map doesn't match the territory.

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@Aella_Girl

Nov 15, 2022

Are u an effective altruist?? || If you push the button, you receive 1 million dollars, but someone random you don't know, somewhere in the world, with no connection to you or anyone you know, will die. This can't be traced to you, and appears to be of natural circumstances. You:

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EA always has been trying to invent problems for the solutions they have. It is the dunning keuger zone. That was the critique before, and now recent news has showed us just how right it was.

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(Snarky tweet, sorry: Not knowing how the numbers don't make sense and additionally calling it dunning keuger is just too much irony in one tweet.)

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@JamieLo27531222

Nov 16, 2022

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@EneaszWrites

I know how the numbers work tf? I refuse to learn how to spelll it right for idiosyncratic reasons. My critique remains that all the problems EA invents solutions for already have solutions. Inventing a competing solution that doesn't adress the root probelms is inefficient

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You cannot trust those poll results a single bit. Do you know how trustworthy Aella's audience is? Do you think 40% of 7000 respondents identify as EA?

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@Aella_Girl

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@EneaszWrites

this is why I also asked two separate polls, one about just EA affiliation and one just about button pressing or not, to see if those rates line up with the one in this poll I commonly do this when I suspect ppl might have motivation to lie on a poll

3:30 PM · Nov 16, 2022

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Without an explanation about who would be inclined to troll on what polls, and for what reasons, and how those factors relate, noticing arbitrary correlations doesn't give you any relevant info.

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If the polls showed the reverse (EAs significantly less likely to push the button then others) would you still be making all these claims about the invalidity of the poll? I suspect there is no poll who's results you'd accept if you don't like them

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I posted my skepticism here twitter.com/insuffpedant/s

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