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Aella
@Aella_Girl
If you're not vegan, I'm not gonna take you seriously when you say bestiality is "wrong because the animals can't consent". We don't care about animal consent in so many ways, and if u aren't pointing it out when ppl eat meat then dont wanna hear u pointing it out with bestiality
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
this especially falls apart when you consider versions of bestiality that include eager participation and no suffering on the part of the animal; e.g., the Louis c.k. bit on having a dog lick peanut butter off his balls like tell me that's wrong while you eat a hamburger I dare u
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
if you're a vegan because you believe animals can't consent then congrats u are allowed to say bestiality is wrong, I grant u a special badge, you are graciously welcome in my replies
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
also re: ppl saying you have to eat meat but don't have to fuck animals, this is only kinda true! You probably use lots of animal products that aren't required for nutrition. If you only ate the bare minimum in order to sustain your health it would probably look very different.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
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@Aella_Girl
also guys jfc I'm not saying only vegans can have a consistent objection to bestiality, I'm saying only they can *if* your reason for bestiality being bad is consent.
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Brent Jesien
@BrentJesien
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@Aella_Girl
Ok you lost me at eggs… especially if not fertilized they serve no point besides MAYBEA more food for the chickens if they got hungry enough. They’re essentially their trash if not fertilized. We can take them without any issue with the chickens.
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Mendar 🦈🎃🃏
@ItisIMendar
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@Aella_Girl
"this is only kinda true" so it defeats your argument but you aren't happy about it? If an animal is killed for food and we only need a little bit of it what should we do with the rest? Just throw it away? Or since we've killed it already maybe leather and gelatin could be used
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Iryna Sofia Hrubiy too
@irynahrubiy
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@Aella_Girl
is it harming the chicken to take their eggs tho? best case scenario setup for the chicken for this hypothetical, nicest lil farm u could imagine. is it still an issue bc w/o u there, she would prefer to let them all pile up or peck them apart, etc ?? /we need mindreaders so much
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splinter
@splinter8675309
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@Aella_Girl
Food is food. It's at the expense of other living creatures, without their consent. Every living creature works this way (with the possible exception of vultures and other pure scavengers). Crops and trees don't consent to give us their products either.
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David Bofinger🌻
@BofingerDavid
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@Aella_Girl
Dairy is an odd case because yes, the cows are more than consenting to be milked, they are desperate to get rid of the vast amounts of milk they make. But they are only like that because we made them that way. Wool is largely the same.
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