Socialist businesses where they redistribute profits to employees? Communes where ppl pool their money to allocate to the most needy? As a libertarian, all of these sound awesome to me, given the condition that people participate in these freely, without the use of force.
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Does “you don’t have to do your tour of duty at the farm collective that controls all arable land, but if you don’t you’ll never get any food and starve” sound palatable under your libertarian model?
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It does under mine, if you add: "or, you could exit the farm/ avoid joining it in the first place".
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I have always been interested in the idea of socialism but in the contexts of a business rather then a government
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Life begins with force. I certainly didn't choose to be born.
Libertarianism is childish play.
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in my philosophy what counts as force is pretty precise and important, and in general incentives do not count as force
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"Communes", "Mutual Aid societies", "Worker owned firms", all exist under Capitalism.
The devout Socialist can show me how much better Socialism works any time he wants to.
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Within free market capitalism, the built-in metric of success is profit. If any form of enterprise maximizes the well-being of its participants instead of profit, it will be crushed by competition within the free market. It's basically natural selection where fitness = profit.
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Not saying it’s what your intention is, but most of the time ive seen this arg used it’s basically a trap - force is defined such that any coercive incentives in a libertarian or capitalist system are excluded, misleadingly presenting them as “more peaceful” than socialism.
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These are, respectively, a general partnership and a nonprofit corporation. You can have both of them right now. There are literal centuries of legal precedent to govern their operation.
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