In your ideal orgy scenario, the norms are that people enter fully aware that consent will be:
- rejected, ignored3.7%
- assumed, default62%
- not assumed, requested34.3%
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Waiting in line just to ask for permission at an individual level makes it all the more boring. Orgies are already kind of bland to add even more interruptions to the flow of things. And, tbh, what little is hot about them is when it's the default & things escalate in tempo.
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In my mind I think that going to an orgy would mean that I’d be having sex with multiple women… then I remember that there are dudes there too, and assumed consent at this event might mean a dick in my ass when I don’t want that…
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Uh I think you lost me
consent be rejected, ignored? what is that supposed to mean? when someone consents I should treat the consent as invalid?
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I mean...
if you're at an orgy...
and you aren't consenting to anything...
why are you there? lol
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I think "go with the flow / go ahead until told no, be graceful with rejection" feels like the ideal norms but I honestly haven't tried many 😂 might not be the exact question you're asking
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I want to say assumed but then I just think “am I okay with surprise anal” and choose not assumed
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If you're consenting to “not consent”, what is really happening is you're consenting to a well defined subset of potentials.
For such consent to make sense, the subset should be well defined—not necessarily specifying every potential, but at least carefully defining boundaries.
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shit ... missed the word "ideal". But do "ideal" have to be realistic ? If no, I'd go for rejected, ignored, but if i'm more realistic, I'd say "requested".