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maybe i'm really slow but is part of the reason people get so mad at stuff I say that I find innocent is that they're parsing my beliefs as being *social*? like they interpret the beliefs as existing for fully social reasons and don't see the actual raw belief in there?

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I think it's just disgust, disgust as a moral value. Sometimes I read a post of yours and it conjures up a vivid image that I respond to with disgust. It's not rational, maybe not voluntary. I have to rationalize myself into allowing things that disgust me.

Aella

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Right, but my point is something like, maybe they're parsing my belief as existing *specifically in order to trigger their disgust* instead of being 'curious about the disgust' or existing independently of the disgust.

3:23 PM · Jul 6, 2022

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I'd imagine you'd be able to tell based on whether the anger is directed toward you (challenging your motive), or the content/implications of the belief.

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Some people will try sea urchin and bull testicles, some people will only eat chicken nuggets.

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Some people are capable of understanding their innate disgust as irrational - even if it is generally a practical guide - and subordinate it to rationality and principle, while others seem to regard their disgust as intuition.

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Your audience is a mix of low to high Kegan stages. To reach all use a mix of the appropriate strategies: imperial - appeal to self-interest socialized - use

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's Argument Foreplay self-authoring - appeal to identity self-transforming - arguments will work only here

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That's too many levels of cognition. It's "I feel disgust" -> "make disgust go away". You are the source of the disgust, so they will try to use the "social enforcement" hammer on you to make you stop.

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If they thought you were just trying to trigger their disgust, they'd probably be less sanctimonious. I'll bet a lot of those opinions are: here's something that people think are profane (not just disgusting), but no one is harmed. Should it be banned?

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I think that's it but I think it's more that they're seen as "social" in the sense of trying to change society in a direction they view as suspect or downright evil

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