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The school shooting in Texas is more surprising to me now that I live in Austin; the amount of people who concealed carry here is really high, and I'd assume small-town Texas would have an even higher %. I'm surprised nobody seemed to be carrying at the school!

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As a survivor, I believe you (and many others) underestimate the sheer confusion of being in the midst of a mass shooting. Is that the shooter? Or is that a cop coming to save us? WHY AM I FROZEN IN FEAR. I didn't train for this.

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I am down to accept that being able to defend yourself in a mass shooting is *way* harder than you think it is. I still imagine that I'd rather have a gun than not have a gun, and based on reading accounts there does occasionally seem to be clear moments for some.

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Occasionally. I found suicide statistics to be a good model for the priors here. Most suicide attempts are unsuccessful — unless a gun is involved. Basically, people do stupid things, and guns make it easier for those stupid things to be deadly.

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Decrease in suicide rates after a change of policy reducing access to firearms in adolescents: a...

The use of firearms is a common means of suicide. We examined the effect of a policy change in the Israeli Defense Forces reducing adolescents' access to firearms on rates of suicide. Following the...

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I'm down to acknowledge this, but also wanna say this doesn't feel like a response to my point.

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What do you think about mandatory training classes to own a firearm

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So again we come to the point. Give guns to the good people to fight the bad people with guns 🙄

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But would you rather that some random other person or persons who are neither you nor the shooter have a gun?

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The gun would serve *you* only in very narrow circumstances at a public mass shooting. Your absolute best way to survive is focusing on escaping. If you want to try and save others, it's a little different.

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There was a security officer with a gun at the shooting in buffalo. He died in the shooting.

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Firstly, it would sound more accurate to say ‘luckier’ rather than ‘harder’. We’re talking about fight, flight, or freeze here. Secondly, in a world with teachers as carriers, deaths would certainly arise from neglect and mishandling. Would the death count be larger or smaller?