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Lots of people dragging on me for deciding to jump into a big python project instead of learning slow basics from a book or school or something. Sure, maybe that works better for you, but if I take that option I will *never learn python* 1/

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@Aella_Girl

May 7, 2022

A big chunk of learning for me is knowing how to manage my own motivation, and there are lots of ways to learn that are in fact more practical, but would destroy my motivation. I have learned not to lie to myself about what I can force myself to do. 2/

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For me, I *need* to learn in direct relation to a goal I care about. This means when I get confused or stuck or bored, I remember the end goal I want, and it gives me the juice to power through. Wanting to "complete a course" does not give me juice.

4:25 PM · May 7, 2022

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And sure maybe my current method of flailing and screaming in the python deep end is stupid and hard but at least I'm doing something. My alternative is wandering off and watching YouTube videos or something.

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@Aella_Girl

May 7, 2022

With my current system I can feel the desire to learn possessing me like a spirit. I'm making slow progress but each thing I've learned lands hard inside my body like a brand or a scar, because it's clearly and directly connected to what I care about. The entire process is alive.

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@Aella_Girl

May 7, 2022

And more importantly, it's fun! I am having FUN learning! When I tried the tutorials there was no fun to be seen. I love the philosophy that every part of your experience should be vibrant, that means are not just for their ends, but are joyful in and of themselves.

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"Let's say you're trying to teach people about how engines work... A more traditional approach would be to say, we're going to teach all about screwdrivers and wrenches. You're gonna have a course on screwdrivers, a course on wrenches... This is a very difficult way to do it."

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"A much better way would be like, here's the engine, now let's take it apart... Then, a very important thing happens, which is that the relevance of the tools becomes apparent."

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That's pretty much how I am too. I find sometimes it helps to devote a little time to boring learning and a little time to big exciting projects, sort of working in parallel. But I haven't been at all successful yet, so maybe don't take advice from me.

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I 100% relate to this. Personal project based learning isn't easy, but it IS learning. A generic course is the kind of thing you retain just long enough to pass an exam...

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This worked for me - I published an Android app. Took me three years but I did it.

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"What's the point of learning this?" "Well you'll need it for the exam" "???"

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This was always the biggest roadblock for me to learn Python. And truth be told it’s so forgiving that you don’t need even need to write good code to get value out of it. Fuck doing it the slow way