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As a socially progressive slut/sex worker/moral nihilist, I am very pro abortion. I grew up among anti-abortion acitivsts - for example, my mom once spent time in jail for blocking abortion clinic doors. I think those people are wrong, but I also understand their views. 1/

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Aella

@Aella_Girl

May 3, 2022

Imagine the Opposing Side is tryin to pass a law to make it legal to kill the elderly, or very sick people. You'd probably feel horrified, and any arguments they made to justify it would seem absurd and selfish. This is really, actually how many of them feel about fetuses. 2/

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@Aella_Girl

May 3, 2022

And that... really sucks, cause what do you do about it? It's not an easy argument, and it's probably why the abortion issue has become a decisive issue in a lot of areas; conservative people are slowly changing in many ways, but it seems like they're stable re: abortion.

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@Aella_Girl

This is why I tweeted that states should have more control; I sort of want all the anti-abortion people to go shush off over in a state or two somewhere and not spend their activism at those who don't believe fetuses are people.

8:21 AM · May 3, 2022

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And what about the rights of the people in those states? What about the rights of the children such living there. The "go make a country of your own" fantasy is naive and immoral

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I deeply empathize with this, from personal experience as you know - but 1) this is already the case in other countries and people here seem largely fine with it; I don't see widespread arguing to free the children of Malaysia or whatever

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It would be ideal if that were the case, but that’s not how people behave physically (re: movement to places that fit their ideals better) or ideologically (re: activism)

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Nah legalize abortion at the federal level, anti abortionists have no right to commandeer the womb

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You can argue for abortion even if you think fetuses are people. It's just a question of if you value bodily autonomy over saving lives. The US clearly does because it does NOT have forced blood donations or kidney transplants.

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…so, you agree with the decision then?

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Doesn't this assume that moving between states is a thing that people can just... do? Cause it's usually not that simple for a lot of people, afaict

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Would you really be content with knowing that your state doesn’t murder elderly people, but the state right next to you does? Even if the government that allowed the murder of elderly people was a small country on the other side of the world, wouldn’t you want to stop it?

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Yeah arguing abortion is pointless. the two sides have completely opposite positions at a fundamental level. Engaging with the other side is a waste of time. That said, "just move" is never a good solution to anything.

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A thousand years from now when people look back on our time at this issue - what will people think?