Hard problem of consciousness:
- Real50.5%
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- Idk/results30%
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to me the hard problem of consciousness feels like newcomb's box problem; it seems really obvious/simple to me and the other people are doing some bizarre overthinking mental moves
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Are you saying that the existence of the hard problem of consciousness seems obvious to you, or that a solution to the problem seems obvious to you?
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I actually published a paper on this last month, which I think helps by disentangling consciousness-as-self-reference and consciousness-as-property. The former is obvious and undeniable, but we eliminativists deny the latter. Happy to discuss on a call. jacyanthis.com/Consciousness_
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I skimmed your paper; these things are easy to miss each other on but i suspect i wrote something similar in a much more retarded paper knowingless.com/2017/02/21/bon
Wow! Spot on! Mary's Room is exactly the thought experiment that—with a little tuning from knowledge to consciousness—divides bonsciousness and consciousness. This reads to me like you're denying the hard problem: If bonsc is "mere contentless self-reference," there's no problem.
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I perceived the steelman of the hard problem to be about bonsciousness, not consciousness? As in yea sure conscoiusness makes no sense, but bonsciousness is undeniable and not really integrated with modern theories.
(Im not familiar with the normal terms ppl use for this stuff)
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