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one of my big complaints with our laws is that it really excludes smaller, experimental governance attempts. I don't believe e.g. communism works, but I would really like people to have the ability to try out communism in smaller systems without getting regulated out of existence

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Aella

@Aella_Girl

and yea you can sort of do these things, but if you wanted to do e.g. a full commune it's still hard - zoning laws, for example, really fuck with ppls ability to experiment with living in the way they want to, taxes tie you to systems even if you wanna live outside of it, etc.

5:42 PM · Mar 13, 2022

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An alternative paradigm would let each person decide what public-oriented programs and services best promote the public interest and (with the caveat that many other people agree) they can choose to put their share of public funds toward those efforts. gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2015/06/put-pu

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Zoning is a thing that small governance units do. The fix is having larger entities (the states) enact laws that preempt zoning/strip the more local units of powers

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I thought there was an article about being able to start a country in the Nevada desert for those types of things (among others). Way less cool of a place than Austin

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Just take over a county or found your own city and you can control zoning laws and pass your own ordinances, tax rate, etc.

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I lament that fact that all the land on the planet has been claimed. (With the exception of that one bit in the mideast where neighbour nations disagree on what border to apply, both claiming one good bit of land and both denying a bad bit so the bad bit is sorta free.)

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wild guess here, but maybe there is a chance for the decoupling you are talking about if they would rent land from a (federally recognized) tribe.

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Read Outbad by Donald Charles Davies. The Federal gov't has cracked down on MC's for years for trying to live these lifestyles. They are afraid it might work.

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Curious how much overhead is too much? Is 13% make or break? 33%? Free state project is showing impressive progress in NH, not to mention black market exit via crypto Places exist at $400/acre & escape local zoning by virtue of size of the lot Bullish on unincorporated frontier

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@JJRFromNYC1980

Mar 13, 2022

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@Aella_Girl

The Israeli Kibbutz was an experiment in communal living, but all of them today stay floating only because of government subsidies. In America, I’m sure certain parts of the country would allow a bunch of people to live in the woods together communally. Why not?

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I've spent time at intentional communities that manage this pretty well, at sizes up to ~100 people. Twin Oaks is an interesting one; they're large, have been around a long time, and are fully income-sharing (unless they've changed in recent years). 1/2