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In my mind, alt-right stuff is roughly equivalent to the woke stuff, just on the other extreme. I don't know how true this is, or how much my reasoning comes from a "things are equal tho aren't they?" fallacy. What kind of evidence should I be looking for to prove/disprove this?

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Kevin Thomas Aurslanian Sullivan Bresnahan

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Feb 12, 2022

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Consider the motivations behind them. Even the craziest of the woke stuff - and there's some true kookiness - is about inclusion; the alt-right stuff, equally batshit, is about violence and exclusion. IMHO that's one place to start.

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I believe they claim inclusion, but I really, really do not believe they act according to this; they pick an extremely narrow version of inclusion and elevate it, while ignoring everything else that falls outside that sphere.

8:40 PM · Feb 12, 2022

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Similarly, I think the alt-right people probably claim things like valuing freedom, but pick a narrow version of freedom and similarly dismiss things that fall outside that sphere as 'not counting.'

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Inclusion of the protected PC groups, but only if they are also woke. That’s very few people in practice.

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The point is about intention, not result. Some inclusive intentions can backfire, but in the long run the aggregate result of lots of good intentions is +EV. The woke may be confused, but they're animated by values I share.

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What is narrower about their version of inclusion, in your mind?

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