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hm well from my perspective, when i was in or near an area where he saw demons, I felt am overwhelming sense of darkness and heaviness. I felt like the walls had spikes aimed at me, like i wasnt supposed to be there, like everything was breathing evil

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it was typically because he pointed out the demons and I believed him, but I occasionally felt it on my own in places I assumed must have high demon concentration (like a store with lots of occultic imagery). I would be surprised if any other environmental factors were responsib/

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I haven't felt anything like this since since stopping believing in demons, except maybe a few times on high doses of psychedelics while listening to dark music.

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ya maybe? if we take that overwhelming sensation of evil and call that "demonic" it seems like a fine descriptor for it

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What if its those commonly occurring stimuli that create the belief system? The belief framework could simply be the way various societies/cultures label these borderline states?

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I think this is likely true! it seems real plausible to me that someone had a psychotic episode or something, described it, ppl were like hm sounds like a Real Thing, which was a concrete enough belief to actively generate that experience in others

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this is partially why I'm so anti people engaging in "real beliefs" like this; it became real for me as a teen and it was Not Good, fuck those ppl for telling me demons were real

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ya part of why I hate the literal magic thing is that it takes the agency away from you. I am happy to experience demons now that I know I am the source of all creation.

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But they are real to those people. My wife is Indonesian. Everyone in that country is 100% convinced that ghosts and other stuff like that exists.