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    1. John Patrick Hale‏ @Nthdayoncaprica Aug 25
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      I don’t feel massively strongly about it but broadly speaking the dividing line is those which commodify natural interpersonal interaction and those which do not, at least to my mind.

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    2. John. Just John.‏ @a_just_john Aug 25
      Replying to @Nthdayoncaprica @Aella_Girl

      So, cooking: fake? cooking for other people is one of the most natural interpersonal interactions there is

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. John Patrick Hale‏ @Nthdayoncaprica Aug 25
      Replying to @a_just_john @Aella_Girl

      Big difference between getting paid to cook a meal for another person and getting paid to cook and eat a meal with another person.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. John Patrick Hale‏ @Nthdayoncaprica Aug 25
      Replying to @Nthdayoncaprica @a_just_john @Aella_Girl

      Paying for the food and paying for the simulacrum of care and affection that goes into personal cooking is another way of phrasing it.

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    5. John. Just John.‏ @a_just_john Aug 25
      Replying to @Nthdayoncaprica @Aella_Girl

      OK, so we've moved from any interpersonal interaction to just those which provide a simulacrum of care. I am sure any waitresses you ask would be happy to explain that they are in fact required to pretend they care about their customers, but leave that aside. so, therapy: fake?

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    6. Maxim Lott‏Verified account @maximlott Aug 26
      Replying to @a_just_john @Nthdayoncaprica @Aella_Girl

      Therapy kind of borderline case — depends if you’re paying them to be a friend (fake) or for their expertise (real). @Nthdayoncaprica gets it. Amazing how few commenters here would be able to steelman the argument.

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    7. Maxim Lott‏Verified account @maximlott Aug 26
      Replying to @maximlott @a_just_john and

      Humans are hardwired to need things like friendship, love. There are reasons evolution led us to desire those! Fake substitutes...They feel good, but do they solve deeper reasons behind the need? No. So now ppl FEEL loved, but they aren’t. Could come back to bite in the future

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    8. Maxim Lott‏Verified account @maximlott Aug 26
      Replying to @maximlott @a_just_john and

      Fake substitutes also reduce incentives for people to improve, to become a person who can find real affection, and the long term benefits of that. Anyway as a libertarian everything should be legal! ... but also let’s be clear-eyed about commercialized affection

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    9. John. Just John.‏ @a_just_john Aug 26
      Replying to @maximlott @Nthdayoncaprica @Aella_Girl

      "I think this job is harmful" is a very different claim than "I think this job is fake". lots of "real" jobs are harmful; why single out those that involve feigning affection in particular as being fake?

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    10. Maxim Lott‏Verified account @maximlott Aug 26
      Replying to @a_just_john @Nthdayoncaprica @Aella_Girl

      Think because *the thing being produced* (appearance of love/caring/friendship) is fake. As far as harmful, btw, not saying harmful in every case. People should be free to make their own decisions.

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Aug 26
      Replying to @maximlott @a_just_john @Nthdayoncaprica

      the thing being produced *is* the appearance

      10:39 AM - 26 Aug 2021
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        2. Maxim Lott‏Verified account @maximlott Aug 26
          Replying to @Aella_Girl @a_just_john @Nthdayoncaprica

          True. Was imperfectly phrased. But the idea is that, by being *merely* an appearance rather than the real thing, it is "fake". Would apply to other jobs too, to various degrees, to the extent that they substitute a real human relationship with a simulation.

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        3. Maxim Lott‏Verified account @maximlott Aug 26
          Replying to @maximlott @Aella_Girl and

          A more accurate phrasing, rather than "fake job", would be "real job producing a fake connection". But, I suspect many use the former as shorthand for the latter? Or maybe most people who say "fake job" are just jealous, that's definitely possible as well.

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