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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Aug 22

      Like everyone else, I've been real interested in doing a commune-style thing with some friends, kinda off-grid-ish, because "lil tribe in woods" is the ideal, right? And I still want it, but sometimes I wonder if we've been too permanently socially crippled to pull it off. 1/n

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    2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Aug 22

      I would fail as a survivalist. I don't have the knowledge to repair tools, to forage, how to prevent mold, treat wounds, etc. I was formed in a 'civilization' mold, where the most I need to know about my own shit is how to hit the flush lever. Set me into the woods, I'd die. 2/n

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    3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Aug 22

      I wonder how much something like this is going on with cultural tribes. Are our attempts at tribe building doomed to fail because we're trying to come at it through a 'civilization' mold? How much do we not know that we don't know about how to sustain this type of community? 3/n

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    4. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Aug 22

      Like, did our cultural 'handle-conflict' skills get shaped by a world where you don't live near each other? Are we doing something fundamentally wrong for a lots-of-time-spent-together context? Do we have values like self expression that just don't work out in the "wild"? 4/n

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    5. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Aug 22

      The vast majority of commune attempts fail. Group houses have high turnover, and (tho low sample size) I don't know a single 'friend-family' attempt that's lasted more than 5 years. Given how much everybody seems to want a tribe, the high failure rate is a bit weird. 5/n

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Aug 22

      And normie stuff like jobs and housing don't help, but my guess is there's also a ton of default, invisible orientations we have to "how we are supposed to be with others" that are incompatible with long-term tribe success, and we don't have good ways of identifying them. 6/6

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        1. Kasper Kubica‏ @KasperKubica Aug 22
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          5 years feels like a decently long time for this sort of experience in the context of a typical human lifespan

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        2. Live Free or DeFi  🤙‏ @livefreeordefi Aug 22
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          Hiking the Appalachian Trail years ago, came to realize the only reasons it was possible (let alone somewhat enjoyable) was because of civilization and technology. Seems most people fantasizing a/b commune, off-grid style living r really looking for community within cultural mold

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        3.  🌍 Duncan Kimpton  🛠️‏ @dgkimpton Aug 22
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          Absolutely. Roughing it is fun because we can always escape back to not having to rough it. There's absolutely a reason people evolved away from living in small isolated tribes towards civilised/technical society. I have no doubt I could survive that way, but surviving < living.

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        1. Nice Fry Roll  🗺‏ @cjflog Aug 22
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          You may be right. Tho I’m not sure “off grid” offers enough utility to match the effort/risk. Many cohousing communities seem to find the balance tho (ie high success rate). imo the model balances cultural norms with “new to us” tribe building behavior.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohousing 

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        1. Vials of Wrath carefully balanced‏ @tim_sandsquid63 Aug 22
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          It's called being friends. We can do that.

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        1. Elijah Gaultney‏ @eligaultney Aug 22
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          I have literally lived off the land (via an acre-sized garden my family tended) and done plenty of backpacking/camping. There are some nice bits, but ultimately it's technology and not the social side that makes me want to stay "plugged in".

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        1. Misha Gurevich. Angel Investor, Photographer.‏ @drethelin Aug 22
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          I think it’s just a fundamentally hard problem. Same as with how many people want a life partner but don’t have one: it’s non-trivial to find someone you want to see every day.

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        1. Mimi Rose‏ @Mimi_Rose_01 Aug 22
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          In modern life being "independent" is easy and people always feel like they can walk away from conflict and the next someone/somewhere will be better... Peaceful conflict resolution is actually really tough, need stronger motivation to keep at it.

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        2. kyle mcphedran‏ @mcphedran_k Aug 22
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          the history of communes goes back pretty far in the US. at least 1860's-70's for the type you're thinking of. communal living requires social maturity. unfortunately most people attracted to the idea are too self absorbed and myopic to create a healthy environment.

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        3. kyle mcphedran‏ @mcphedran_k Aug 22
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          honestly that's the amazing thing about history. all of these questions that you're posing have been answered. all you have to do is stop thinking you're smarter than everyone else and learn from others mistakes and successes.

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