Like everyone else, I've been real interested in doing a commune-style thing with some friends, kinda off-grid-ish, because "lil tribe in woods" is the ideal, right? And I still want it, but sometimes I wonder if we've been too permanently socially crippled to pull it off. 1/n
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5 years feels like a decently long time for this sort of experience in the context of a typical human lifespan
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Hiking the Appalachian Trail years ago, came to realize the only reasons it was possible (let alone somewhat enjoyable) was because of civilization and technology. Seems most people fantasizing a/b commune, off-grid style living r really looking for community within cultural mold
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Absolutely. Roughing it is fun because we can always escape back to not having to rough it. There's absolutely a reason people evolved away from living in small isolated tribes towards civilised/technical society. I have no doubt I could survive that way, but surviving < living.
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You may be right. Tho I’m not sure “off grid” offers enough utility to match the effort/risk. Many cohousing communities seem to find the balance tho (ie high success rate). imo the model balances cultural norms with “new to us” tribe building behavior.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohousing
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It's called being friends. We can do that.
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I have literally lived off the land (via an acre-sized garden my family tended) and done plenty of backpacking/camping. There are some nice bits, but ultimately it's technology and not the social side that makes me want to stay "plugged in".
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I think it’s just a fundamentally hard problem. Same as with how many people want a life partner but don’t have one: it’s non-trivial to find someone you want to see every day.
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In modern life being "independent" is easy and people always feel like they can walk away from conflict and the next someone/somewhere will be better... Peaceful conflict resolution is actually really tough, need stronger motivation to keep at it.
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the history of communes goes back pretty far in the US. at least 1860's-70's for the type you're thinking of. communal living requires social maturity. unfortunately most people attracted to the idea are too self absorbed and myopic to create a healthy environment.
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honestly that's the amazing thing about history. all of these questions that you're posing have been answered. all you have to do is stop thinking you're smarter than everyone else and learn from others mistakes and successes.
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