Like everyone else, I've been real interested in doing a commune-style thing with some friends, kinda off-grid-ish, because "lil tribe in woods" is the ideal, right? And I still want it, but sometimes I wonder if we've been too permanently socially crippled to pull it off. 1/n
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I wonder how much something like this is going on with cultural tribes. Are our attempts at tribe building doomed to fail because we're trying to come at it through a 'civilization' mold? How much do we not know that we don't know about how to sustain this type of community? 3/n
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Like, did our cultural 'handle-conflict' skills get shaped by a world where you don't live near each other? Are we doing something fundamentally wrong for a lots-of-time-spent-together context? Do we have values like self expression that just don't work out in the "wild"? 4/n
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The vast majority of commune attempts fail. Group houses have high turnover, and (tho low sample size) I don't know a single 'friend-family' attempt that's lasted more than 5 years. Given how much everybody seems to want a tribe, the high failure rate is a bit weird. 5/n
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And normie stuff like jobs and housing don't help, but my guess is there's also a ton of default, invisible orientations we have to "how we are supposed to be with others" that are incompatible with long-term tribe success, and we don't have good ways of identifying them. 6/6
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I think a lot of this is very learnable. My parents had a bit more knowledge than you to start (dad loved hardcore camping) but they survived in the Congolese rainforest for a decade. Obviously they had support from local people, but they developed a lot of skills very quickly.
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At least with the internet you can find the information to learn to solve those problems, but learning them then expands what you know you will need making it that much more daunting.
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You can learn all this in six months.
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only to address this point of your thread: I think you’re vastly underestimating your ability to adapt to new environments. humans are extremely resourceful and from what I think I know about you, I don’t think those skills are beyond your reach
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Great thread! I read a great book about a commune and the 1970s Back to the Land movement, got obsessed with the idea and started writing a musical about a commune set in Vermont.
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If you or anyone you know might be interested in helping out with writing the book for the musical, let me know :)
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