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    1. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @webdevMason

      I am similarly against progressive sex culture where they shame trad sexuality; if you're putting down girls who don't like rough sex then that's bad (tho to be clear, celebrating girls who do like it is fine, much as celebrating women who want to be wives is fine)

      2 replies 1 retweet 29 likes
    2. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @webdevMason

      also to be even more clear, I think you were extrapolating some things that I didn't mean and representing a more extreme version of the argument, which I don't support.

      1 reply 0 retweets 14 likes
    3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @webdevMason

      to be even even more clear, if you push trad sexuality culture spectrum slider all the way far, you start getting some fucky stuff where people's natural impulses are shamed and suppressed (e.g., the gays). if you push liberal sex slider all the way, you also get fucky stuff

      1 reply 1 retweet 21 likes
    4. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @webdevMason

      my discomfort with trad sex discourse is that I'm not always fully convinced that ppl in it are aware of the variety of fucky stuff that can happen at the edges, that they take seriously the ways far-slider versions have hurt people in the past

      1 reply 1 retweet 21 likes
    5. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @webdevMason

      I feel like I'm uncomfortably running behind like "are u sure you're aware of that failure mode cause you don't seem to be looking at it yourself". I think if I saw independent discussions among those ppl like "how do we make sure we don't push slider too far" I'd feel better

      2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
    6. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @webdevMason

      something like, I've seen people really deeply hurt by far-slider trad sexuality, and I want some reassurance that trad sex ppl aren't gonna do that again, that they actually care. given that, I feel a lot of flexibility and space for it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    7. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️𐃏‏ @webdevMason Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      What I’m trying to offer is that trad folks are fundamentally motivated by what they want for themselves, many are driven by harms from modern sexual culture that really are no less profound, and they are misrepresented by the assumption that they e.g. don’t care about gay rights

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    8. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @webdevMason

      I don’t think trad folks don’t care about gay rights, I’m saying “suppressing deviant sexuality” is a historic failure mode with that as an example (much as “pressure women to like kinky sex” would be a failure mode of progressive sexuality)

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    9. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl @webdevMason

      I do think the harms *are* less profound, at least in direct contrast (given that subjective suffering is always independently valid). Also think trad ppl motivated by ‘wanna live my life the way i want’ is extremely good and i strongly support it and you’re right to fight for it

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️𐃏‏ @webdevMason Jul 20
      Replying to @Aella_Girl

      I think you’re wrong, at least insofar as sexual trauma, unrelenting anxiety and a sense of hopelessness can go. In terms of actual enforced barbarism, maybe not, but I’m not sure how much further “subjective suffering” can go when someone is already suicidal or close to it.

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      Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Jul 20
      Replying to @webdevMason

      Yea i disagree here and I’m trying to figure out how we can measure this independently, like what criteria of ‘how much does this suck and for how many ppl’ would capture both types

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        2. Mason  🏃‍♂️ ✂️𐃏‏ @webdevMason Jul 20
          Replying to @Aella_Girl

          FWIW I also think you probably don’t actually understand trad culture very well if you think it’s largely concerned with “deviant sex,” which I think it’s safe to assume a lot of them are having in the context of relationships where the partner is expected to not just walk away

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        3. Conor White-Sullivan 𐃏 🇺🇸‏ @Conaw Jul 20
          Replying to @webdevMason @Aella_Girl

          50 Shades of Long Term Commitment and pronatalist family planning.

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