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Aella
@Aella_Girl
I'm pretty libertarian, and open to discussion around it; I've updated my views before and acknowledge there are weaknesses. But most people responding on twitter are making arguments based on significant misunderstanding or straw men of my libertarianism views.
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@Aella_Girl
There are some good points against libertarianism, but "if we stop governament programs nothing could possibly full that role better" is not one of them. It's the equivalent of christians going "but without god, there's no reason to do good" - it's basic and a bit ignorant.
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@Aella_Girl
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@Aella_Girl
And again, to clearly reiterate - I'm not saying there aren't good arguments against libertarianism out there! But by and large, most of the people in my mentions seem to be stuck on level 1 understanding and critique and it's pretty frustrating.
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Sebastian Sylvan
@ssylvan
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How, is that different from communists who are sure it would work if only it was done right? It's all faith based right? We have no evidence of this hypothesis panning out, and any time we move in that direction it's a disaster (see e.g. Kansas experiment recently).
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
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My complaint here is about people criticizing an inaccurate version, what they think libertarianism says but doesn't. I also think if you're going to critique communism, you should be familiar with what communists actually believe.
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Dan
@DanNailers
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@Aella_Girl
So without government programs, something else better will take their place? Police/military/healthcare etc? Put their argument out of its misery once and for all Aella.
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Floidberg
@floidberg
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@Aella_Girl
I see what you mean I think anyone who thinks they can solve the tension between individual and collective is dangerously deluded. It's supposed to be contentious and reciprocal
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@redplanning
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@Aella_Girl
If you believe everyone should have access to the goods or services provided by those programs rather than just the number of people that can be served by whatever varying amount of private donations occur, then yes nothing can do it better.
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@entropy_harvest
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I don't think this is an accurate analogy. We need a way to fund and provide programs that benefit all of society that isn't depending on the caprice (and health) of individual charities, churches, etc. Government is currently the best way to do that.
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