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    Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Apr 24

    "If you don't like it, move to a different country; you implicitly consent by staying here" is an argument I hear a lot from people when I complain about taxes, but is mysteriously absent when I complain about things like the drug war or bad policing

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      2. Crimson‏ @Crimsonak1 Apr 24
        Replying to @Aella_Girl

        Well, because you get a vote in who and how policing is conducted. The reason you get a vote is because you're a citizen. Granted, it's not perfect and is subject to corruption, but less so than a private option by a country mile.

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      3. Crimson‏ @Crimsonak1 Apr 24
        Replying to @Crimsonak1 @Aella_Girl

        It honestly seems more and more like you're desperate to cling to the idea you're being stolen from, no matter the arguments presented against that. Measured against the fact you only *seem* to care since you are earning enough for it to make a difference.

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      2. programming 10, personality 3 (girl version)‏ @aburisotto Apr 24
        Replying to @Aella_Girl @rplevy

        the police can prevent you from leaving the country but the people raising your taxes can’t. furthermore, having to be a member in good standing of a society and not violate any major laws or taboos is a thing everywhere, but having a modern state with a safety net isn’t.

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      3. Kevin Sullivan  🇪🇦 🇺🇸‏ @LupineChemist Apr 24
        Replying to @abusurdist @Aella_Girl @rplevy

        Funny enough in the US it's exactly the opposite. No exit controls but there is global citizen based taxation.

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      2. Nick Albright‏ @albrnick Apr 24
        Replying to @Aella_Girl

        Sure! Taxes are something we've agreed upon as a society, and have created laws for. Bad policing is not that, that's an error in our system. And the drug war was something we created laws for, and now that's changing as society's opinion changes.

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      3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Apr 24
        Replying to @albrnick

        Lots of people supported the drug war - it was something we agreed upon as a society, and created laws for. If, at the time, I had said "the drug war is bad", would you have been like "If you don't like it, leave?" I wanna change society's opinions about taxes, just like drugs.

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      2. Harry Heymann  🥑‏ @harryh Apr 24
        Replying to @Aella_Girl

        I think that tends to happen because the "taxation is theft" argument implicitly brings the question of consent into the argument where "the drug war is bad" does not. So it's not surprising that debate about the former centers around consent grounds while the latter does not.

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      3. Aella‏Verified account @Aella_Girl Apr 24
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        what? Yes it does. The drug war is entirely about consent, in my eyes. The government has no business violating the consent of people to do what they want with their own bodies. Same with taxes - no business violating people's ownership over their own property.

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      1. Schism‏ @raskolnehkov Apr 24
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        yeah. I tend to think that when what you're complaining about is either 1) an aspect that makes the US unique, or 2) a result of a uniquely American value, it is appropriate. Otherwise, inappropriate.

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      1. MacMillan‏ @0xMacmillan Apr 24
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        There’s seems to be an arbitrary line made up by the dominant culture about what is deemed reasonable to be infuriated by and what you’d unreasonable not to just accept as practical.

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