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I feel like I'm in crazytown when I express distress about taxation - literally people forcibly taking away your property - and ppl act like I'm the crazy one. Sure, you could argue that this forcible theft is worth it, and I'll respect that, but it's still not crazy to be upset.

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Why don't you leave the US? If the answer amounts to you like the public goods here - roads, relatively clean air, relatively low crime, etc etc etc - then in fact what you're saying is you want to free ride, i.e., enjoy the benefits of taxes, without actually paying.

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US still taxes citizens that move out of the US.

7:16 PM · Apr 24, 2021

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There are a number of countries with short (3yr) residency requirements for citizenship you could move to and then renounce your American citizenship if you wanted.

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the US has an exit tax, which would tax all of my assets that I own worldwide as though I'd sold them all. But even despite this I've been seriously considering it. My main problem is being too far away from my family.

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This is a common misunderstanding. It requires that they file a tax return (which they shouldn't, IMO). But most US citizens living abroad that I've spoken to say that they pay very low or zero US taxes, unless most of their income is actually US source.

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They only pay lower taxes because they went somewhere that is taxed at an even higher rate. If they actually tried to escape US taxes by moving somewhere with a lower rate, they would find the amount due to the IRS makes up the difference.

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You can relinquish the citizenship though?

en.wikipedia.org

Relinquishment of United States nationality - Wikipedia

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You could buy yourself citizenship in another country. Malta and Cyprus are notorious for offering this in Europe, but I think there are states in the Caribbean/Middle and south America that offer this as well.

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You have to renounce citizenship and finish that process. Then you're no longer a citizen and no longer paying taxes.

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There’s a foreign income exclusion, it was about $107k last year.

irs.gov

Figuring the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion | Internal Revenue Service

A common misconception about the foreign earned income exclusion is that the excluded income does not need to be reported on a U.S. tax return.

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If you are an ex-pat and stay out of the US, then no, even though you have to file, you don't pay for the most part. You can also renounce your citizenship and not pay anything more.