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I feel like I'm in crazytown when I express distress about taxation - literally people forcibly taking away your property - and ppl act like I'm the crazy one. Sure, you could argue that this forcible theft is worth it, and I'll respect that, but it's still not crazy to be upset.

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I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be distressed, at all. Taxes are a capricious and arbitrary use of power, the rational response should be fear and anger. There is no mechanism to consent to an income tax.

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Right, thank you <3 Another problem is, I would love to "opt out" as much as I can - I wanna run away to some woods and stop paying most taxes or taking electricity from the grid, but I also can't do this. They give you no escape.

6:39 PM · Apr 24, 2021

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*shrug* If paying taxes bothers you so much that you're willing to forgo all the benefits of civilization, I think you should have that option. But yes, I see that as crazytown, sorry 😞

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Yes, that is part of the problem. You are also unable to meaningfully opt out as long as the state asserts the right to claim a contribution from you wherever you are.

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I think this doesn't bother me because the default in human societies is some kind of monopoly on violence. I'm pretty happy to pay for the state's protection, because the alternative is that someone hurts me and takes my things. It's a racket but there's always going to be one

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I'm not sure I understand. I and many others have done just this.

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Couldn’t you expatriate to somewhere like Bermuda?

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You want to escape to somewhere with no roads? No emergency services? No energy grid?

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It SHOULD be! :)

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of course they do. the problem is, you like living in a society, and enjoying what society creates. this requires giving back (taxation). not complicated.