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I feel like I'm in crazytown when I express distress about taxation - literally people forcibly taking away your property - and ppl act like I'm the crazy one. Sure, you could argue that this forcible theft is worth it, and I'll respect that, but it's still not crazy to be upset.

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Think of it as paying for the infrastructure and society that allowed you to make that money. It may hurt, but it's a fair trade IMO.

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I'm okay with fair trades, I'm not okay with nonconsensual trades. My issue here is that it is *my* property taken *by force*, and people are trying to tell me "cheer up, it's a fair trade." I don't care if it's fair, it's still a violation.

6:23 PM · Apr 24, 2021

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It is consensual. You could leave the US if you don't like it. The deal in the US is that you get to make an extraordinary comfortable living benefiting from the society that your taxes pay for.

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I view this as I am making a comfortable living *in spite of* taxes. Society has managed to grow *in spite of* taxes. Imagine where we would be if we didn't have that burden!

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There are millions of people in your country, and billions in the world. It would be real swell if we had a political system that couldn't make any of them do anything until each and every one of them explicitly agreed to it, but that isn't something that's currently workable.

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Right, not absolutely, but there's still a *lot* of progress we could make in that direction, and most people don't even seem to care about that direction *at all*.

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Society wouldn’t work if the government couldn’t use force... how would you stop someone else from taking over your property without violent bloodshed

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Don't listen to their bullshit. They take your money and waste it, pour it into a black hole. You are right to be resentful. If you don't pay they will take you away.

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It’s ok to be upset about that. The key is to realize that it can’t be any other way. If you find a place where it can, someone else will come and make it so it can’t.

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But the only reason you have “property” in the first place is because you are part of a system (a country) that has laws that define property and a government and courts and police and soldiers who protect and maintain the system.

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Your property is *your* property in large part because of the government. Your property rights, especially in the US, are maintained by the military, police, judicial system etc. I don’t think it’s as simple as trading of consent or value

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Do the people that get angry with you pay taxes? Perspective is important. Bottom line inequality is skyrocketing, and the gov't thinks they will use taxes to stop inflation. This trick has been tried and it fails. Buy #bitcoin