I feel like I'm in crazytown when I express distress about taxation - literally people forcibly taking away your property - and ppl act like I'm the crazy one. Sure, you could argue that this forcible theft is worth it, and I'll respect that, but it's still not crazy to be upset.
-
-
We should maximize the taxation that enhances the well-being of society. It's not apparent to me that we've reached that state. Rampant inequality coupled with a struggling lower-middle class is a cancer that destroys societies.
-
Why do we always talk about more taxation before gov efficiency tho? Can anyone seriously claim our gov is efficient with its resources?
- Show replies
New conversation -
-
-
If you think you're completely alone in the world that makes sense. If you think you live in a system your taxes are a contribution to maintain the system. One can question how much of the system could be provided eg. by the market, but counterpoint markets also need maintaining.
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
-
-
Disagree. The only thing that is bad is the concentration of power - which is the inevitable spiral of no taxation. That's evil.
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
-
-
-
For taxation to be theft, you need to enshrine private ownership. But please, explain to me: how — in terms of ethics — can somebody take a piece of the Earth and say “that's mine, and nobody else can have it”?
-
And then if you accept private ownership (as I do). It still requires a government to protect that property. If you don't have a government (which necessitates taxes) then organised crime takes over and they will charge their own "taxes" (protection money).
End of conversation
New conversation -
-
-
But where does the notion of theft come from when, if you're talking about say your value in the labour market, that is only being determined within a taxed society. If you earn $20 per hour and pay $4 tax, why do you think this is theft? Why are you sure it should be $20?
-
If you went to a super super low tax status place you would realise it is either, tremendously poor general services, or that they are very classist society, with an almost slave like underclass serving the elite. No tax doesn't work in broad societies.
- Show replies
New conversation -
-
-
Without some form of government you’d pay that in protection fees to some gang or warlord in exchange for physical security. That’s why the state has to monopolize violence. Think of it as a protection racket, but one you actually have some control over besides what you pay.
-
Without the government there’s no such things as rights or personal property or a convenient store of value. Without violence, you can’t protect what you think of as yours because there’s no incentive for others to recognize that what’s yours is not theirs.
End of conversation
New conversation -
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.