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As a general rule, I assume that racism is probably not a motivation for most things. Not that it *can't* be, only that it's culturally inflated to the point where I automatically adjust downwards. There's *lots* of other often-worse motivations for things that aren't racism.

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Like, I think a lot of what's perceived as racism would be more accurately described as: *cultural bias *classism *religious fear *unintended outcomes of innocent upstream things *gender role problems *genetics

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And to reiterate - this doesn't mean I don't think racism exists. I think it absolutely does, where it does it's horribly damaging to the people who suffer from it, and we shouldn't dismiss racism as "oh it's just classism or something" in cases where this isn't true.

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My point is more- when I was religious, we believed that Christians were persecuted, and so any info that involved Christians having a bad time was reinterpreted as persecution. Now, some Christians *are* persecuted, and this is awful! But *also*, I shoulda been more skeptical.

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And to claim authority of identity, I am a woman and think a lot of the claims of sexism against women are overblown and can be attributed to other things, and I automatically downgrade the chance something is sexist when I hear about it. But this doesn't mean sexism isn't real!

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I just think it's a very general human feature - when a powerful narrative hits us (like one involving underdogs), it's typically powerful *because* it has truth, and then once it grows teeth it becomes a bigger caricature that's powerful *regardless* of the truth.

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And it can be extremely hard to figure out how to knock down the false caricature without also knocking down the important truths inside of it. Lots of people get reactive and aren't interested in preserving any of it. It's a really hard, triggering, and messy process.

6:55 PM · Mar 17, 2021

Dmitriy Kolesnikov

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Scott Siskind's recent post about trapped prior resonates here. If you have a strong prior that X is pervasive, bad, and underrated, you are more likely to overattribute X relative to the evidence for it for cognitive *and moral" reasons. Erring on "it's X and X is bad" is good.

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The “sex killer”? I think guys that are losers tend to do stupid stuff and then rationalize it with I hate this race. I hate women. Etc But in reality they just hate that they are losers and kill people for attention

Spin Resistance

@SpinResistance

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You're saying many true and important things. They don't change the fact that you came in with a hot take about a situation you know nothing about, while the victim's bodies were still warm, and are now trying to enlightened-rationalist your way back out. Admit you fucked up.

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