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Brandi, Maybe
@awesomebrandi
CW: Eugenics, extreme ableism "NEEDS HELP GOING TO THE BATHROOM" What. THE FUCK. Is with the ableds and their goddamn obsession with needing bathroom support? Just, what the actual fuck? Needing to help someone in the bathroom is the worst thing you can fucking think of?
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
would you support the right for parents to legally end the life of children who are proven beyond-a-doubt to be severely, permanentally mentally handicapped; e.g., cannot function on their own, needs help going to the bathroom, cannot be left unsupervised
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Tash-Tash
@tashatashms
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@awesomebrandi
You can always tell how eugenics-y someone is by how quickly they will bring up disabled people's toileting needs completely unprompted. Jesus Christ, just get over it already. It's bathroom stuff, everybody does it. It does not have some deep symbolic importance or anything
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Brandi, Maybe
@awesomebrandi
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@tashatashms
yes, or the parents who are like 'you don't understand, I CHANGE DIAPERS' Um.. okay? Or the seclusion teachers who are like 'I CHANGE DIAPERS'.. Cool, cool. Like, they're so freakishly obsessed.
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@tashatashms
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@awesomebrandi
I just don't understand why it's that big a deal to people. I've done that and it's just perfectly normal and fine. If somebody needs support you support them and move on with your day. But I keep hearing people talk as if it was the most psychologically scarring thing ever
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
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@awesomebrandi
I think it's because it's a useful, common measuring thing. For example, one measuring thing for psychedelic intensity is "tying your shoe". It's not cause tying a shoe is especially meaningful, but because everybody does it and requires a concrete, repeatable series of tasks.
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
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@awesomebrandi
"Going to the bathroom" is an easier way to get a general grasp on the level of care that's needed, because it's a very regular thing, people have incentive not to have help for it (privacy norms), and there's a clear understanding of what tasks are required.
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Brandi, Maybe
@awesomebrandi
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@Aella_Girl
But, people with bathroom support needs have a huge and varied number of reasons for NEEDING bathroom support. What about people who are in accidents, and then need it later in life? Or have muscular dystrophy? Kill them later on?
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Aella
@Aella_Girl
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@awesomebrandi
Oh, sure, this is absolutely true. For example, there's lots of reasons people might have difficulty tying their shoes - maybe they're on psychedelics, or maybe they have parkinson's disease. This is why I provided more context and examples in my original tweet.
Aella
@Aella_Girl
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@awesomebrandi
A lot of people dismiss what I say as attempting to get attention, but this legitimately isn't my intent. I have autism and came from a weird/culturally isolated background and have figured out my brain works differently from most people, and they often misinterpret my intent.
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